Depending on amount, location, and how much you want to hunt for a good rate: go P2P if the stack is large, or a fixed-rate instant swap if you just want it done.
RetoSwap (@RetoSwap, https://retoswap.com): Haveno-Reto is the Monero-native Bisq fork. Same model as Bisq, Monero at the core, Tor. Prefer this over Bisq if the destination is XMR.
BasicSwap (@BasicSwapDEX, https://basicswapdex.com): atomic swaps + decentralized order book, 0% protocol fee (only network fees). BTC ↔ XMR both ways. Heavier setup, thinner book than instant swaps, but no custodian and no platform cut.
The two I know as long-standing projects with good people running them are Trocador (@TrocadorApp, https://trocador.app) and OrangeFren (@OrangeFren, https://orangefren.com). Filter hard for Never-KYC: a “no-KYC aggregator” still routes through a partner that CAN freeze a deposit!
There are also projects based on Hyperliquid (@HyperliquidX, hyperfoundation.org), and also Thorchain (@THORChain, thorchain.org) recently added Monero, DYOR them if you want.
Rule of thumb: small stack + speed → aggregator with a Never-KYC filter. Large stack + “I do not want a third party holding anything” → RetoSwap / Bisq / BasicSwap / eigenwallet.
After the swap, move XMR off the receiving address.
*These are just my thoughts, based on personal and community perception of how well-known and reputable the people behind these projects are. I do not accept any “sponsored posts” offers to mention any swaps online.
P.S. And thank you for the first post in my turf, @samourai - upvoted! 🧡 P.P.S. #FreeSamourai
idk if I count as a "Monero veteran" (I don't feel like it lol), but I recently wrote a whole post on this: https://themeritocrat.substack.com/p/where-id-look-to-swap-sats-for-xmr
I’ll copy it here. If someone reads this months or years later, I’ll keep the Substack version updated (e.g. when SeraiDEX launches: https://serai.exchange/).
From my experience this is the question I get most across every channel I use.
Where I’d Look to Swap Sats for XMR Without KYCWhere I’d Look to Swap Sats for XMR Without KYC
Just a List with Notes.Just a List with Notes.
RE: “Where the hell one can swap sats for XMR in a “safe” & no KYC way?”
Depending on amount, location, and how much you want to hunt for a good rate: go P2P if the stack is large, or a fixed-rate instant swap if you just want it done.
P2PP2P
Atomic swapsAtomic swaps
Instant swaps and aggregatorsInstant swaps and aggregators
There are a lot of them, see lists:
The two I know as long-standing projects with good people running them are Trocador (@TrocadorApp, https://trocador.app) and OrangeFren (@OrangeFren, https://orangefren.com). Filter hard for Never-KYC: a “no-KYC aggregator” still routes through a partner that CAN freeze a deposit!
There are also projects based on Hyperliquid (@HyperliquidX, hyperfoundation.org), and also Thorchain (@THORChain, thorchain.org) recently added Monero, DYOR them if you want.
Rule of thumb: small stack + speed → aggregator with a Never-KYC filter. Large stack + “I do not want a third party holding anything” → RetoSwap / Bisq / BasicSwap / eigenwallet.
After the swap, move XMR off the receiving address.
*These are just my thoughts, based on personal and community perception of how well-known and reputable the people behind these projects are. I do not accept any “sponsored posts” offers to mention any swaps online.
P.S. And thank you for the first post in my turf, @samourai - upvoted! 🧡
P.P.S. #FreeSamourai