pull down to refresh
In the Freedom on the Net 2025 report, the UK scored 76/100, while China scored 9/100—one of the worst results globally. I do not believe these countries are comparable (although Freedom House did lower the UK’s score, partly due to the rise in criminal prosecutions for online speech — meaning the UK’s problem is not a hoax).
indeed, 12,183 arrests were made in 2023 for the "improper use of a public electronic communications network" — an extremely high number. however, the phrase "arrested for free speech" is too vague: upon closer examination, I could not find a clear line between arrests for overt threats, obscenity, "gross insults", false reports and certain forms of harassment — and expression of opinion or "free speech". I am by no means trying to justify state coercion; yet countering, say, physical threats does not merely curtail free speech — it literally protects it, based on your own definition. I'm not saying that there is no problem here, but that I'd wish to have the better numbers. I do also agree with you, that at least some of these cases are likely far-fetched — or downright nonsence: no one should be arrested for insults. It reminds me of how, in France, there is a criminal penalty for insulting a French politician.
We all police our speech.
talking about policing thoughts — I really don't see a future, where nobody controls themselves, neither desirable, nor safe, nor productive, nor pleasant. even right-wing libertarians argue that freedom goes hand in hand with responsibility.
Ultimately its good to have the tools even when you dont need them. By the time you need them its usually too late.
talking about the tools — I have already expressed my skepticism regarding this argument, which reminds me more of a slippery slope.
its one thing to police your own actions and speech because of your own morality. but most of the time, for almost everyone, they police what theyre allowed to think about because they are afraid of social consequences. This is not good for the spiritually developing person.
As far as not buying the "good to have the tools" line, i hope you never have to inderstand it. Countless in history did, and these rights are hard won with blood. The future is a blank page, but if mean reversion is a thing, you can be rest assured someone somewhere is going to need them.
Freedom on the Net 2025...
And saudi arabia is on the UN human rights council. I'd be willing to bet that that organization is run by people who think censorship is good if its for their own causes, and shits on china because it blocks wesrern pro LGBTQ content or whatever, that seems to be the trend these days. I dont trust authoritative institutions like that and nobody should.
Free speech is the ability to say whatever the fuck you want without fear of physical consequence for doing so.
The UK is a massive counterexample, as are all the anglo-descended nations to a slightly lesser extent, the least impacted being the US, significantly so. More people in the UK are arrested for saying things online per year than in china. Not just per capita, mind you, but nominally, so given the massive population disparity its way way worse rhan it sounds. Really really bad.
You can say that free speech or censorship resistance arguments dont compel you, but there is plenty you cant say in most places. Even not talking about violent threats or lies intended to cause damage, im sure you can think of something that you can't say right here. Even if it were something you wouldnt want to say...
We all police our speech. We police our thoughts. The idea of creating ultimate free speech environments is ultimately to grow as people by meditating on that and exercising not doing that anymore. Nobody should police their thouhyts; everyone should he deliberate in what they say. The ego conflates the two to protect itself, but be honest with yourself, you probably police your thoughts because of external pressure and then back rationalize it as being deliberate and thoughtful. Its almost always not.
Ultimately its good to have the tools even when you dont need them. By the time you need them its usually too late.