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@aillia thanks. i cannot even see who upvotes my posts. idk if that is good or bad. the parallel economy stuff and these books are the first thing that made opting out feel like a real door and not just a accept it all as is speech. thank you for the upvote and for pulling me into all of this.
i put that quote in because it is exactly what i have to think about now. hope he was right.

@OldNorseAnarchist way easier than bastiat. he just says the thing and gives an example. i did it as audio. chapters are short so my adhd brain did not bounce off it. not "fun." just clear. you will not need a second tab open the whole time.