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Not worth my time answering walls of text with internet strangers on basket-weaving forums. I'll leave you with this excerpt which might be relevant:
Judaism, as it was originally understood, no longer exists today. The contemporary religion that identifies itself as "Judaism" is more accurately referred to as Talmudism. Today’s self-proclaimed Jews are primarily comprised of Eurasian Talmudists who lack significant Hebrew ancestry and show little continuity with the beliefs of the Old Testament. They do not await the Messiah, having rejected Him upon His arrival. Additionally, there is no temple, priesthood, or sacrificial system in place; the destruction of Solomon’s Temple marked the end of the Levitical line of priests.
In response to the rise of Christianity, the rabbis compiled the Talmud between the 3rd and 6th centuries. This extensive work, which is 2.5 times larger than the Bible, is a commentary on the supposed Oral Torah that was allegedly passed down from Moses. However, the Old Testament itself grants no authority to rabbinical leadership; it recognizes a priesthood, not rabbis. Since the rabbis are unordained and lack priestly lineage, their legitimacy is derived solely from Talmudic precepts. Without these, there would be no "Rabbinic Judaism."
In addition to the Talmud, Talmudists use a modified version of the Old Testament known as the Masoretic Text. This text was altered by a group of scholars called the Masoretes between the 7th and 10th centuries, primarily to obscure prophecies concerning Christ. Many Talmudists also incorporate the Kabbalah—a 13th-century esoteric interpretation of the Torah—into their beliefs. The end result is a religious system that is fundamentally different from the original Jewish faith. In this sense, Talmudism is to Judaism what Mormonism is to Christianity.
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Fair enough. I plan on writing more on it in the future with references and more fleshed out arguments. I can also provide sources regarding the historicity of Jesus and Jesus mythicism. You may not like my arguments, but I believe them to be well thought out and well founded. I welcome dissenting arguments if they are of high quality and addressing my actual points instead of appealing to consensus, the status quo, or institutional bias. You want to trade insults, I'll do that all fucking day. You want to debate points in a civil fashion, I'll do that too. Attacking pagan conservatives is not productive. What have christian conservatives conserved over the past 100 years? Not a damned thing. So don't suppress newcomers within your own people that propose something different just because they want to return to an earlier ancestral European religion. Nobody is proposing American Hinduism. I would put on the templar outfit with you if someone proposed that. I think tolerance for religion should be scoped to ancestral European religions (Christianity/European paganism), not judaism/Islam/Hinduism. E-crusaders come from just as much of a minority viewpoint as conservative pagans whether you like it or not. Approaching the argument from a viewpoint of haughty derision is not productive.
I would also ask that you provide a source for your passage above. Christian antisemitism is fighting with one hand behind your back because you accept many tenants and key components of their religion implicitly and explicitly. Much of the logic behind not blaming the jews for shit they very much did is because of arguments like this. I don't think they're 100% behind everything, but they are a powerful faction and most sects of Christianity fight against them with unwarranted restraint because of their theology. They are the most powerful faction in the world. It is comprised of a race, religion, culture, and nation. Disallowing an honest examination of their organization and works because of theological blinders is not productive.
Also, the image was a nice touch. I chuckled at that one.
"Looks like I touched a nerve"
Yeah, that's the normal response to when someone outright insults you, but attempts to hide it behind a veil of politeness like the feminine christian you are. Instead of addressing my ideas you just defer to arguments of the status quo and institutional opinion and authority. Then come the fucking ad hominems of course.
It's not "the Talmudists" you fucking idiot, it's not the fucking khazars, it's Jews practicing the Torah aka the Old Fucking Testament. They reference the Torah when they do the fucked up shit they do. They say "look it says in the Torah that god loves us the most". You attack only the Talmud, because you CAN ONLY attack the Talmud. Because your religion says that an ethnicity infamous for lying throughout the entire history of the planet instead dutifully transmitted via oral tradition the Torah word for word from god's mouth with no mistakes or mistranslations for decades or more (depending on the book) before finally being written down. Because jesus said "I came not to contradict the law, but rather to fulfill it". So you can't be a Christian and not affirm the validity of anything in the OT.
Do you think when people convert to or from a religion that they immediately gain a whole new epistemological foundation? That their ways and practices just go away immediately?
Many European nations took until around 1000 AD to convert officially to Christianity, but that only reflects state policy. Many hold outs and peoples still practiced European paganism until much later into the 1600s. The Mari never stopped their practice of paganism. Also, much conversion was done at the point of a sword. Seems real genuine.
None of you ecrusaders go around attacking churches and institutions and getting into theological debates and calling the existing churches heretical corruptions. You just counter signal rival conservatives.
Now you reveal even more comprehensively that you don't know your own fucking religion. Noahide laws are based on the laws that were provided to Noah by god in Genesis 9 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%209&version=KJV). These laws are:
Do you know the only one they have a conflict with Christians over? Idolatry because they say that Jesus was not god so worshipping him is idol worship. Most Jews view that as incredible progress compared to paganism. Guess what? You and them agree :).
Did you bother to actually look into this before you responded here? The best evidence that exists that's not from literal followers of the religion is Tacitus and Josephus. Tacitus basically offhand mentions one time that a cult exists and they worship Jesus who they view as the messiah who was crucified. He doesn't say I saw this, he doesn't produce a record, he just says supposedly this happened. Josephus is the second and if I remember correctly he wrote it way too long after the supposed events for it to be practical or useful. You should actually engage with Jesus Mythicist arguments before arguing that even atheists believe this (many of which are jews and whose paycheck definitely depends on them affirming it).
No argument, got it.
Yes, real jews (not only Talmudists, not khazarians) had a large part in it. That's in no way my argument. An ideology doesn't spread without fertile ground which was laid by Christianity. I'm not saying Christians schemed to come up with it, I'm saying they provided the prerequisites and fertile ground for it to take hold of.
Before Jesus came who were the people your god chose and considered to be the most exalted and according to many denominations (yes even beyond evangelicals), still consider the most exalted? Was it....the Europeans? Was it...the Africans? Was it...the Asians? Nope it was the Jews.
Again it's the actual Jews. Your conspiracy is garbage and much less legitimate than any of my arguments. Provide supporting evidence not from ecrusader blogs.
Yes, that is true. It's also true that the church persecuted pagans ten times more harshly and in almost every instance where pagans were prohibited from worship the jews got a special carve out. The Christians even allowed jews the special privilege of controlling the banking industry by proclaiming it usury for all Christians, but luckily their extra special chosen people didn't have that restriction. I sure hope that's not giving a major important monopoly to a hostile foreign people. Christians also have been making an extra special effort to keep them around as a "witness people" or "the book bearers" since around 430 AD which St. Augustine used to explain why God said "slay them not" in Psalm 59:11-13 KJV.
I addressed this a bit earlier. I'm saying they retained their pagan ways and practices. It's called syncretism.
Obviously pre-christian pagan practices and beliefs didn't have a significant impact. Happy Thor's day by the way.
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