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Looks like I touched a nerve.
You have no idea what you're talking about, like most pagan LARPers online, and I don't even know where to begin addressing all of this drivel. Likely won't cover everything:
Rhetoric supporting foreign invasion is Christian
How come foreign invaders were constantly repelled by Christians for centuries and it is only now, after we got secularism and separation of church and state, that the invaders started flooding in? Christianity was infiltrated by talmudists (see Nostra Aetate) and there are indeed so-called Christians supporting replacement, but the root of it all is not based on Christian theology but on Talmudic distortion
Why don't you argue it against the christian institutions
Are there any Christian institutions posting on stasher.news so that I can address it here?
rabbis saying that the number one thing they want is for people to be Noahide compliant via religions like Christianity
Under Noahide laws, Christians would be beheaded. They introduced Noahide laws specifically to persecute Christians. "Rabbis" can say whatever they want to get laws passed because they are allowed to lie to gentiles according to the Talmud
Jesus never existed
Even most atheist historians agree that Jesus existed. There is more evidence for Jesus' existence than for example Alexander the Great, and yet you don't see anyone denying Alexander's existence
praise of meekness, weakness, poverty, degeneracy
You have zero understanding of Christian theology.
I wonder where communism came from?
Talmudists, so-called "jews". Definitely not Christianity. The communist Bolsheviks committed the largest genocide ever in their persecution of Eastern Orthodox Christians. This is a well-documented historic fact, to which you are oblivious or choose to ignore to fit your agenda.
a foreign god and a foreign people
There is no such thing as a "foreign God", because there is one God alone. I guess monotheism would go over the head of a polytheistic LARPer.
Why don't you go do what Christians do and go worship jews
Christianity has persecuted and converted so-called "jews" for centuries. American Evangelical heretics worshipping them is a recent phenomena, and they are a tiny subset of Christianity.
Wouldn't want to be cursed, because those who curse Israel will be cursed.
The Israel of today has nothing to do with the Israel of two thousand years ago.
Christianity was never based, most people just retained their pre-christian ways
Right, so they were all secretly Pagan for two thousand years until just recently, when they decided to finally follow Christianity for real, and that's when things went bad. Are you hearing yourself?
"Looks like I touched a nerve"
Yeah, that's the normal response to when someone outright insults you, but attempts to hide it behind a veil of politeness like the feminine christian you are. Instead of addressing my ideas you just defer to arguments of the status quo and institutional opinion and authority. Then come the fucking ad hominems of course.
It's not "the Talmudists" you fucking idiot, it's not the fucking khazars, it's Jews practicing the Torah aka the Old Fucking Testament. They reference the Torah when they do the fucked up shit they do. They say "look it says in the Torah that god loves us the most". You attack only the Talmud, because you CAN ONLY attack the Talmud. Because your religion says that an ethnicity infamous for lying throughout the entire history of the planet instead dutifully transmitted via oral tradition the Torah word for word from god's mouth with no mistakes or mistranslations for decades or more (depending on the book) before finally being written down. Because jesus said "I came not to contradict the law, but rather to fulfill it". So you can't be a Christian and not affirm the validity of anything in the OT.
Do you think when people convert to or from a religion that they immediately gain a whole new epistemological foundation? That their ways and practices just go away immediately?
Many European nations took until around 1000 AD to convert officially to Christianity, but that only reflects state policy. Many hold outs and peoples still practiced European paganism until much later into the 1600s. The Mari never stopped their practice of paganism. Also, much conversion was done at the point of a sword. Seems real genuine.
None of you ecrusaders go around attacking churches and institutions and getting into theological debates and calling the existing churches heretical corruptions. You just counter signal rival conservatives.
Under Noahide laws, Christians would be beheaded. They introduced Noahide laws specifically to persecute Christians. "Rabbis" can say whatever they want to get laws passed because they are allowed to lie to gentiles according to the Talmud
Now you reveal even more comprehensively that you don't know your own fucking religion. Noahide laws are based on the laws that were provided to Noah by god in Genesis 9 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%209&version=KJV). These laws are:
- The prohibition against idolatry.
- The prohibition against blasphemy.
- The prohibition against murder.
- The prohibition against sexual immorality.
- The prohibition against theft.
- The prohibition against eating flesh torn from a living animal (cruelty to animals).
- The command to establish courts of justice.
Do you know the only one they have a conflict with Christians over? Idolatry because they say that Jesus was not god so worshipping him is idol worship. Most Jews view that as incredible progress compared to paganism. Guess what? You and them agree :).
Even most atheist historians agree that Jesus existed. There is more evidence for Jesus' existence than for example Alexander the Great, and yet you don't see anyone denying Alexander's existence.
Did you bother to actually look into this before you responded here? The best evidence that exists that's not from literal followers of the religion is Tacitus and Josephus. Tacitus basically offhand mentions one time that a cult exists and they worship Jesus who they view as the messiah who was crucified. He doesn't say I saw this, he doesn't produce a record, he just says supposedly this happened. Josephus is the second and if I remember correctly he wrote it way too long after the supposed events for it to be practical or useful. You should actually engage with Jesus Mythicist arguments before arguing that even atheists believe this (many of which are jews and whose paycheck definitely depends on them affirming it).
You have zero understanding of Christian theology.
No argument, got it.
Talmudists, so-called "jews". Definitely not Christianity. The communist Bolsheviks committed the largest genocide ever in their persecution of Eastern Orthodox Christians. This is a well-documented historic fact, to which you are oblivious or choose to ignore to fit your agenda.
Yes, real jews (not only Talmudists, not khazarians) had a large part in it. That's in no way my argument. An ideology doesn't spread without fertile ground which was laid by Christianity. I'm not saying Christians schemed to come up with it, I'm saying they provided the prerequisites and fertile ground for it to take hold of.
There is no such thing as a "foreign God", because there is one God alone. I guess monotheism would go over the head of a polytheistic LARPer.
Before Jesus came who were the people your god chose and considered to be the most exalted and according to many denominations (yes even beyond evangelicals), still consider the most exalted? Was it....the Europeans? Was it...the Africans? Was it...the Asians? Nope it was the Jews.
Christianity has persecuted and converted so-called "jews" for centuries. American Evangelical heretics worshipping them is a recent phenomena, and they are a tiny subset of Christianity.
Again it's the actual Jews. Your conspiracy is garbage and much less legitimate than any of my arguments. Provide supporting evidence not from ecrusader blogs.
Yes, that is true. It's also true that the church persecuted pagans ten times more harshly and in almost every instance where pagans were prohibited from worship the jews got a special carve out. The Christians even allowed jews the special privilege of controlling the banking industry by proclaiming it usury for all Christians, but luckily their extra special chosen people didn't have that restriction. I sure hope that's not giving a major important monopoly to a hostile foreign people. Christians also have been making an extra special effort to keep them around as a "witness people" or "the book bearers" since around 430 AD which St. Augustine used to explain why God said "slay them not" in Psalm 59:11-13 KJV.
Right, so they were all secretly Pagan for two thousand years until just recently, when they decided to finally follow Christianity for real, and that's when things went bad. Are you hearing yourself?
I addressed this a bit earlier. I'm saying they retained their pagan ways and practices. It's called syncretism.
Obviously pre-christian pagan practices and beliefs didn't have a significant impact. Happy Thor's day by the way.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/Thursday
Not worth my time answering walls of text with internet strangers on basket-weaving forums. I'll leave you with this excerpt which might be relevant:
Judaism, as it was originally understood, no longer exists today. The contemporary religion that identifies itself as "Judaism" is more accurately referred to as Talmudism. Today’s self-proclaimed Jews are primarily comprised of Eurasian Talmudists who lack significant Hebrew ancestry and show little continuity with the beliefs of the Old Testament. They do not await the Messiah, having rejected Him upon His arrival. Additionally, there is no temple, priesthood, or sacrificial system in place; the destruction of Solomon’s Temple marked the end of the Levitical line of priests.
In response to the rise of Christianity, the rabbis compiled the Talmud between the 3rd and 6th centuries. This extensive work, which is 2.5 times larger than the Bible, is a commentary on the supposed Oral Torah that was allegedly passed down from Moses. However, the Old Testament itself grants no authority to rabbinical leadership; it recognizes a priesthood, not rabbis. Since the rabbis are unordained and lack priestly lineage, their legitimacy is derived solely from Talmudic precepts. Without these, there would be no "Rabbinic Judaism."
In addition to the Talmud, Talmudists use a modified version of the Old Testament known as the Masoretic Text. This text was altered by a group of scholars called the Masoretes between the 7th and 10th centuries, primarily to obscure prophecies concerning Christ. Many Talmudists also incorporate the Kabbalah—a 13th-century esoteric interpretation of the Torah—into their beliefs. The end result is a religious system that is fundamentally different from the original Jewish faith. In this sense, Talmudism is to Judaism what Mormonism is to Christianity.
Happy Thursday.
Fair enough. I plan on writing more on it in the future with references and more fleshed out arguments. I can also provide sources regarding the historicity of Jesus and Jesus mythicism. You may not like my arguments, but I believe them to be well thought out and well founded. I welcome dissenting arguments if they are of high quality and addressing my actual points instead of appealing to consensus, the status quo, or institutional bias. You want to trade insults, I'll do that all fucking day. You want to debate points in a civil fashion, I'll do that too. Attacking pagan conservatives is not productive. What have christian conservatives conserved over the past 100 years? Not a damned thing. So don't suppress newcomers within your own people that propose something different just because they want to return to an earlier ancestral European religion. Nobody is proposing American Hinduism. I would put on the templar outfit with you if someone proposed that. I think tolerance for religion should be scoped to ancestral European religions (Christianity/European paganism), not judaism/Islam/Hinduism. E-crusaders come from just as much of a minority viewpoint as conservative pagans whether you like it or not. Approaching the argument from a viewpoint of haughty derision is not productive.
I would also ask that you provide a source for your passage above. Christian antisemitism is fighting with one hand behind your back because you accept many tenants and key components of their religion implicitly and explicitly. Much of the logic behind not blaming the jews for shit they very much did is because of arguments like this. I don't think they're 100% behind everything, but they are a powerful faction and most sects of Christianity fight against them with unwarranted restraint because of their theology. They are the most powerful faction in the world. It is comprised of a race, religion, culture, and nation. Disallowing an honest examination of their organization and works because of theological blinders is not productive.
Also, the image was a nice touch. I chuckled at that one.
Shut the fuck up you fucking e-crusader. Why don't you spend less time policing the pagan conservatives and more time policing the churches flooding the country with foreigners? All the rhetoric supporting foreign invasion is Christian. "We're all children of god". "They're our neighbors". " We have to help those in need". If you are this confident that your theology of based Christianity is correct, why don't you argue it against the christian institutions that have a million times more influence than your Deus Veult crusader LARP? It's because based Christianity doesn't have a theological leg to stand on. You would get spanked in a theological debate with theological scholars on it. India isn't a white country and it's not remotely comparable. Maybe compare it with a more accurate comparison with a more similar people like Japan? I have watched hours and hours of rabbis saying that the number one thing they want is for people to be Noahide compliant via religions like Christianity. Jesus never existed. He's a fucking myth destroying indo-european civilization with his constant sycophantic preference for the outsider instead of the insider and his praise of meekness, weakness, poverty, degeneracy. " Resisting not evil". Not taking vengeance because it is the Lord's alone.
I wonder where communism came from?
Acts 2:44-45 KJV
"And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need."
You're the mind fucked one following a foreign god and a foreign people who only wish to subjugate you at the expense of your people. Why don't you go do what Christians do and go worship jews who you view as the chosen people and who you're the branch from the tree of and send your money to fucking Israel? Wouldn't want to be cursed, because those who curse Israel will be cursed.
Why don't you turn the other cheek or spread your cheeks like you always do?
By the way turn the other cheek wasn't some form of rebellion by saying I'm an equal to you according to ancient Roman slapping practices. That's a bullshit e-crusader lie. Look it up. Sell your cloak for a sword was never connected to actual fighting being done. Flipping the tables and driving the money lenders away with a whip doesn't even inherently imply any sort of significant violence. Christianity was never based, most people just retained their pre-christian ways, temperaments, and customs and that's why they ever did anything remotely based. You would know that if you didn't begin your understanding of your own people with "we were all worthless listless savages until the magical jew came around". I don't give a fuck what you saw on 4chan you're wrong and retarded.
We all know Christians and progressives (secular Christians) will be the first to fight remigration. The first to stay the hand of those willing to act. It hamstrings conservatives regularly.